it was during questioning that this russian came up. michael caputo was asked about the russian, about his contacts with this russian, and it was at that point that michael caputo said he became surprised at all of the information that the special counsel had about this russian. that information eventually wound up -- michael caputo wound up relaying that information to roger stone, and now the lawyers for both roger stone and michael caputo sent these letters to congress saying quite simply that the men had forgotten and that they had recalled this meeting had occurred after the special counsel brought it up. but it's really something that's hard to believe, obviously, wolf, that they would forget a mee meeting where someone was asking for so much money. and keep in mind this is the third instance, at leiast, thata russian had some contact with people associated with the trump campaign offering dirt on hillary clinton. it was obviously the don jr.