from that country, facing south region. >> fair point. it's really interesting, coming off the g-7, the president made a point up there to have very tough words for the allies. he theoes and meets with somebody who is the opposite of an ally, really, any way you want tonalyze it, and has unusually and really the softest words have ever heard shared about kim jong-un except by himself. what was the tactic employed there? >> let's look at the track record. first of all, as we mentioned earlier in our conversation, the president has also had some very harsh words for kim jong-un over the previous year and a half or so. >> but that's what you say about him. what you say to him and different than what you say about him. >> having a good meeting with a handshake i n't think is surprising. >> what you say about someone is different than what you say to his face. to his face he said, you're talented. you're honorable. i trust you.