it's that simple. >> i think he did everybody a real service by talking about his own addiction and how much he struggled with heroin and cocaine. i think that, again, the more that we can talk about the really hard subjects the more it removes the stigma. and to know that he had overcome those things i think is inspirational. it gives everybody hope to know that they could overcome something really hard. and that is why the pain of in i think is doubly compounded, because he had overcome it seems some demons in the past. and i guess that doesn't make you bullet proof. >> you know, i didn't know him well enough to know -- to know if he was still haunted by it. but i'm sure it never leaves you when you go through that kind of experience, it's always going to be there. you fight it, deal with it. you move on. i always thought he did an amazing job in moving on.