he loved nothing more if i went out to meals with him he enjoyed getting me to eat bizarre foods i would never in a million years eat because i have the pallet of a 5-year-old. >> this is tripe. >> what is tripe? >> it means good. >> is it brains or the penis of a shark or? >> no, no not that good. it is the stomach lining of the cow. >> he loved cinema, the music, all that was incorporated in these travel journeys that he would produce. i actually end up taking trips to places he had been because -- i went tanjeers after he took a trip there, i thought, wow that was interesting because i wanted to see what he saw. >> one day, tony and i were sitting off stage waiting for something to happen.