a takeaway of something big on their side, something big on our side. that's a takeaway. first steps to continuing dialogue, perhaps a visit of kim jong-un to the white house as it was discussed earlier and there's more to come and see -- has to be grand gestures out of this initial meeting, maybe not, you know, ultimately -- this won't ultimately result in denu denuclearization the first step. >> one thing i heard from trump skeptics, simone sanders, president trump might talk a big game with how good of a deal maker he is but the evidence is not there and a lot of skeptics point to the president in the public negotiations he's invited cameras into with lawmakers back in january. sat down with lawmakers to talk about immigration reform. he seemed to agree to a clean bill for the dreamers. take a look. >> what about a clean daca bill now? >> i think that's basically what