have this new set of allegations concerning contacts that paul manafort made and tried to make with other witnesses in this case between february and april is really quite surprising. he sort of through multiple channels, telephone calls and electronic communications tried to contact other witnesses to tell them his side of the story or at least that's whate appeared to be trying to say. and evidently the witnesses went to bob mueller and turned over the evidence of those communications to the special counsel's office. >> michael, let me just get this right. so manafort's out on this $10 million bond. as he's out, these investigators find him talking to these witnesses and through the witnesses they have discovered paul manafort tried communicating with them through some sort of encryption app to pass along informati that he never should be doing in the first place. and he got in trouble for it.