immediate. i think in negotiations you have to be willing to give and take. >> sorry, can you -- can there be interpretations of immediate? >> oh, yes. physically, that's impossible. i think the key thing here is that kim jong-un, the north korean regime is the rogue regime. they'll have to make the commitments but they'll be matters on both sides that will have to be dealt with and it's going to take some time. we have to be patient. we have to build confidence. quite frankly, we need transparency and we need congress involved in how we'll move forward. we don't trust kim jong-un, but we know diplomacy is the best way to resolve this issue. >> let me ask you about another comment the president made this morning. he was asked about the new nfl rule, about penalizing nfl players that don't stand for the national anthem. here's how the president sees it. >> i don't think people should be staying in locker rooms, but still i think it's good. you have to stand proudly for the national anthem.