he'll know where the bodies are buried. so if cohen was engaged in criminal activity, he'll be able to talk the prosecutors through it. so critical. it's a critical thing for the government. >> and you know, to the point that ann's making, john dean, it sounds like look, you don't make deal like this with somebody when they could be facinge inin year sentence unless you think they have something that's not sending them to jail for. they think this guy has something on somebody. right? >> that's right. in fact, the key to me in the reporting was what the judge said to them the day when he was taking his plea. he said do you appreciate what your lawyer has done for you, what he's accomplished? taxi king said, yes, he did. what i read that to mean is that his lawyer showed he had a very strong proffer. he had information of interest to both state and federal