general, he required pentagon approval, didn't get the pentagon approval and was scolded for it by his colleagues. at the lower level you had people like george papadopoulos and carter page who suspected of being close to russian intelligence in a way that raises questions about any american citizens. of course the fbi vetteinvestig. trump is asking for a grant of immunity that he has a right to operate his campaign -- this would happen with any institution, he alone should be exempt from the normal scrutiny. >> and it's pointed out in the "washington post" that the entire appointment of this confidential source was an issue in essence to protect trump and now we see where this is going with him. david frum, thank you so much for joining me.