that people can get out if through lease a fire or something like that. but as we looking at hardening targets. bad guys are just like water, they're always going to take the path of least resistance. so if you harden a target, if school is better prepared, better protected, that bad guy is going to think twice. >> it brings up the question of metal detectors, it brings up the question of dress codes, because there are calls across the country for schools to be safe. >> it's that whole argument about civil liberties and keeping us safe and making it a police state. if you want to have students come to school with their shirting tucked in. i think that's reasonable. we don't want to turn school