>> well, kate, i trust this employee when he says that this is unusual, having worked in the fbi, i understand that there are certain protocols and if i had -- if i were to go into a case file, for example, and there were certain serials or documents missing, that would be alarming. but i want to point out that what the special counsel is investigating is extraordinary as well. this is an unprecedented election interference by a hostile foreign power that has counterintelligence elements, so i think that it could be possible that these may have been removed because they are relevant to a highly sensitive investigation. on the other side, if they were removed illegally, i would be surprised if that was not on the radar of mueller's team, he has the lead prosecutor for the enron case, so he has people who are very familiar with these processes and i'm not sure whether the leak was the right