to see how much money are you spending and so forth. so this is a time where they are trying to continuing to try to get the mueller team to wrap it up. >> but this is also part of rudy giuliani plan which i'm not sure is the whole legal team plan. but it is rudy giuliani's plan to kind of wrap this up. he wants -- he just got in, what, two weeks ago but wants it over. so he wants to say, well, okay, the president has been told, the guy is not going to get indicted. so everybody knows that. like so what is the point of continuing with this thing. let's just -- >> and he's saying not just indicted, he's saying, this is a quote, you got all of the facts an the documents and the explanation and we're happy to tell you that won't change so you don't need to talk to the president. >> and i don't think mueller will listen to that for one second by the way. but i think rudy coming out and telling you this is an indication of where he is and what he's trying to do is put outward pressure on it. i'm sure we'll hear from the president on this tomorrow.