this. either rudy giuliani accidentally told the truth just now and created a big problem for the government or rudy is talking out of school again, talking out of turn, making it up as he goes along. he has his foot in his mouth again. either way, it's ugly, it's not good. it's a reminder we're seeing rudy giuliani every day it seems like in every interview he gives stumbling through answers, saying things that create problems for trump and the white house. >> trying to separate themselves from michael cohen and had they resolved that case -- michael avenatti brought this to light. if they settled that, this may not have been in the public sphere. the special counsel knows about it. this stormy daniels thing has -- it's a run -- >> world's longest domino affect. >> you reached out to the justice department. any response? >> i have not heard anything back. i am sure they are scrambling to come up with some sort of response. i'm sure as michael said, at&t