potentials that you could ravel this into or just a simple bribery case. i just don't know, don. it's hard to tell with the facts we have. >> laura, president trump and his team appear, as john said, to be distancing themselves from michael cohen. in the initial aftermath of the cohen raid, trump was very publicly angry calling the raid disgraceful. >> right. >> disgraceful situation, remember he said they broke into my lawyer's office. what does that say to you? >> well, it shows you there's maybe glass houses and rocks being thrown. the pot calling the kettle black. whatever analogy you want to use the flip-flopping undermines their credibility, undermines their ability to say we have a firm position that's consistent, that allows anybody looking at this case to judge what their behavior was. it's one thing to find out information later on that changes your opinion. but if you have the information all along which is part of the concern people have about whether the president of the united states was aware of payments that were being made, whether the president of the united states was aware of there being access for his -- for sale