american people, if they don't know, who is khalid sheikh muhammad. a "new york times" story, khalid sheikh muhammad -- we know he was water boarded and said he gave information to stop the waterboarding, that it was bogus. so she's going to go into a closed hearing and be asked about the treatment of khalid sheikh muhammad. the trump administration is framing the politics, who are you going to side with, a woman tough on terror or the guy that orchestrated the 9/11 attacks. >> the folks getting water boarded were not boy scouts. but that doesn't get to essential questions, one, does this align with american values, something that took a long time to get there. she didn't give a straight answer. to be fair, there are democrats and republicans who do not agree with the torture program and