this happened. >> so, at this point, we should point out that black cube has denied involvement, and that no connection with the white house has been made, but, and this is a big but you say, again, the timing of comments made by trump officials tells you something. >> yeah, i mean, first thing, your -- the folks watching should know that the black cube denial is not really a denial. they said, they don't talk about who hires them. but they, you know, they weren't hired by the trump administration. what is weird, what kind of got my spider sense tingling, last spring, a number of trump aides started a public smear campaign to blame the entire, you know, what they thought was this deep state conspiracy on the ben rhoads colin call nexus, happened to coincide exactly at the same time that this black cube firm was hired, and coincidentally, also happened around the same time as the president's trip to saudi arabia and israel. >> you know, if you are, in fact, in the middle of this and