belly trying to say stuff of glo shopping or both. but she was incredibly proud. i think she's also just proud because i have found a sense of self and a sense of self hood and sense of happiness and joy. that is what you hope for for your children. >> was there ever a moment when you were maybe a student activist at brown or whatever. >> no, my activism is r very recent. i think it really sort of -- >> why now? >> well -- everybody needs to youz their voices right now. okay? which is part of the fertility of this moment. >> yes. >> is that you know, the tendency with how volatile and scary and appalling and understandably and justifiably terrifying it is, but the