and the kind of comments that they make. i actually believe it's good he did this. because i agree that this should be a very high bar. because at the end of the day if the case -- if the judge let's the case move forward then the skepticism -- there is no where to go with the skepticism. if he doesn't then i'm sure the mueller investigators will go in another avenue. busy really do believe that the scope has everything to do with financial issues. with the bank issues, the finances, even as it goes back maybe ten or even more years. i've always said that if you can go back and follow the money and everybody talks about following the money, if trump is beholden to the russians in in any way shape or form because of any money they gave him in the past then i think that is an issue now he is president of the united states. >> kirsten, the president did continue to kind of distance himself from manafort. he called him a nice guy but