new tonight, a former forbes reporter claiming donald trump lied to get on the forbes 400 list posing a a quite named john baron to claim he was worth a lot r more. that reporter is my guest. he'll be with me in a moment, but this would not be the first time trump has done this. we're "outfront" with more on trump's art of deception. >> what's your first name? >> john. >> one of the name's president trump has been accused of using to leak information to reporters about himself. >> he's an excellent guy and they're very close, their relationship, very close as you've heard or know or perhaps you u don't know. >> in this call in 1984, he is claiming the assets of trump's wealthy father, fred, are in fact donald's. >> when you say it's 90% --