if it was true, would you be asking your fbi director who may not be on your team to please look into it more? >> he first demanded loyalty from him. >> i didn't see demand. i skimmed this. >> to me, what's newsworthy about this is that we've learned at least i've learned for the first time that the president did have worries and concerns about mike flynn. you see that again and again in these notes and yet despite these worries and concerns about flynn, he says to the fbi director, "i hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting flynn go. he's a good guy. i hope you can let this go." so -- >> paul -- >> -- two, three, four times. >> you're not going to make your case on that. >> hold on. it's not that he thinks he's a good guy. >> one at a time. >> so here's what i want to say about this, look, i'm not a lawyer so i can't speak to, you know, the legalese of this. he emptied the oval office and told comey to end the flynn investigation. he asked the vice president to go out. he asked the a.g. to leave. it doesn't say obstruction to justice, but it certainly describes events that seems to lead to that. >> michael -- >> so i just think it paints a