word flip essentially saying the president didn't do anything wrong, but michael cohen will tell the feds whatever they want to hear to avoid going to prison. here is what jay goldberg said. >> a witness in michael's position is able to glean what it would take to get a letter of cooperation from the government and thereby avoid a lengthy prison term. >> carrie, is that what the fear here is? >> well, that seems to me the advice that mr. goldberg gave the president that michael cohcohe cohen. look, something under the investigation that michael cohen is obviously under in the southern district of new york, given the search warrants that were executed, given the proceedings that we're seeing, his whole life is being turned upside down. i think the point that mr. goldberg is trying to make is that is a person who might be in his experience motived to try to cooperate with the government in any way the try to bring some better resolution for his own self in this case.