possible. he said the same thing to abc. in that sense -- >> i have to go back aook. about the prostitutes and the urine. but i don't know. i'm not -- >> again i'm too polite to mention that on air, as well. >> it's a medical term. >> you're right. golden shower. >> let's put the urine aside, what do you think about him not saying yes i think the nation would be better off? >> he think it is president is a forest fire. better off without a forest fire? he couldn't clear that low bar. >> the other things grow after the forest fire is the metaphor he uses. >> what now? >> jackie can -- i can just agree. >> also a development of i want your perspective on this. we have 80 seconds. which is the question about whether or not michael cohen will flip. former attorney for president trump said that he should be worried, concerns of michael cohen testifying against