>> i don't know. i hope people will see me even if you disagree with my decisions as a fair minded person acting in good faith, careful, involving other people. i don't know. i hope it doesn't sound odd. it doesn't matter that much. i'm a happy person. i care how my family feels about me. i love to be a great father and grandfather. people make their judgment over time. >> you have been very sensitive to the criticism that some people have made that you have an infatuation with your own sense of integrity. you acknowledge you have a big ego and don't like that criticism. i don't understand the disconnect. i think the ego is about your intense of integrity, don't you think? isn't that the biggest -- >> i see it as the same. i agree with you. but i'm sensitive to it because i've spent my life trying to make sure it's not ego driving my decisions and the decisions made here whether you agree or disagree with them weren't made by me alone. i put together a team of people who argued and fought and didn't