black? it's stale police issue. i don't know why you keep bringing that up. it has nothing to do with this story. absolutely nothing. >> what i'm saying, again, i'm not talking about the particulars of this case. >> that's what we're here to talk about. that's why we invited you on to talk about this. we didn't invite you to talk about that. >> i don't understand why we -- >> i don't understand why, i get that we have to have opposing sides of the arguments. i'm a conservative. i don't know why we bring people on these networks had a stay most utterly ridiculous things like everything steve has said since we started this discussion. it is blatant obvious that the president, the white house has a difficult time discussing race. it's obvious. this president talked about murders of a white young lady from an illegal immigrant, why? it suited his political agenda. when it comes to talking about black men being killed in this country, this president and this white house stays away it from.