cookie to deal with? they said absolutely none. they were in fact surprised at how weak the legal representation was. >> what did nixon say to you when you were advising him early on that he needed to get an attorney? >> didn't want to hear it. did not want to hear it. >> it is -- >> did not bring anybody in with that experience. >> it is baffling there's no iconic washington defense attorney eager to take on mueller on behalf of the president of the united states. it's not a town short on attorneys. >> i think it's one of the real issues for some of the firms is that they won't get paid. that's the rumbling i have been picking up in talking to washington lawyers i know. i think he will probably find somebody in washington that will step forward. he's got the word out there now so i think some republican lawyer probably will come forward. >> thanks very much. coming up, first his parents sued. now the brother of seth rich has also filed a lawsuit against right wing activist and media