>> these are terrible people, and we have to get tough on those people because we can have all the blue ribbon committees we want. but if we don't get tough on the drug dealers, we're wasting our time. just remember that. we're wasting our time. and that toughness includes the death penalty. >> what do you think of that, angela? >> plain and simple, it's cruel and unusual punishment. donald trump is completely out of line like so often. he's completely out of line on this. he's also completely misled on where things are, where the discourse is in criminal justice discussions and on criminal justice reform. everyone knows at this point that folks are pulling away from the death penalty. and when we're talking about coming out of the obama administration where there was a clemency initiative at the department of justice to help get folks out of jail who had non-violent drug offenses, for