so it just wasn't talked about. i think the president is now facing the reality that there is really no good way out at this moment. this investigation is moving like burning wood toward the white house, and as gloria mentioned before, there's a subpoena to the trump organization. there's the questions that mueller wants to ask. he now knows that mccabe had written memos, and his legal team, in addition to giving him false promises, have probably also told him -- i mean they probably made it clear that he could get into trouble with this interview, that he can't talk his way out of it the way he did with "the new york times" or when he talks to the press. so i'm sure that makes him very nervous, and he thinks that he can win this in the court of public opinion. and that way he doesn't have to fight it in a court of law. >> and if he doesn't testify, he has to have a good reason for it. and the reason is, why would i testify before these corrupt people? >> i agree. >> just for a reality check on this too, if we look before election day, i don't want to