excited about your chosen career, it doesn't mean you should be exploited for having those qualities. >> we hope they have the courage to, if and when this happens to them, to do something. >> we need you. we need you to succeed. we need you to stay in the business and figure out some of the challenges that lie ahead, so don't give up. >> so that group is called press forward. it asked me to be on their advisory board which i'm honored to be a part of. i'll keep you updated on the tangible changes made in tv news and beyond. >> great conversation. you had to fold in the stuff by ted because that's how culture changes. of course, that energy all has to go up. it has to go out, get as many people involved as possible. then it has to go up because culture has changed -- >> for sure. they also do believe it will have a ripple effect on other industries. the guidelines they're trying to set they think can be a blueprint for any sort of industry. the more we talk about it, the more change happens. >> it will be interesting to see what corporations make real moves. thanks for bringing us there.