denied the carsons had any involvement in this selection of this dining set. i want to read a quote. this spokesman told me, quote, they had zero awareness of this purchase being made. and for carson's part, he put out a statement and painted a picture of more of a limited involvement. he said he briefly looked at catalogs of the dining furniture and his wife also briefly looked at catalogs to make sure the color matched the other decor but again, the e-mails paint a different picture. they weren't on the sidelines while others were making these decisions. e-mails paints a picture of carsons very much so being involved in this process of selecting this dining set which got a lot of bad press obviously. >> what is hud saying about this discrepancy? >> so we reached out to hud and got a somewhat odd response regarding this story here and i'm quoting -- >> how in line with what they've