speaking for the president. all we have to do to know that that was not the case is look what happened last week. the north korean dictator sent a message for the south korean diplomat directly to the president. and you know, our understanding was that was in part because they didn't even think to talk to the secretary of state because they didn't trust that he actually was in lockstep with the president of the united states. >> who at the time, was multiple zones away in africa asleep. >> that's the other thing, too. having people with military backgrounds around the table, it's a really important point. based on what i have heard from people who have been in and around those national security meetings is that rex tillerson was described to me as the most prepared in the room but the least effective. he might not have a military background. obviously he has a business background, which has some