then he had to try to clean it up. >> i'm not going to deal with petty stuff like that. this is what i don't understand about washington. >> is it true? did you call him a moron? >> jake, i indicated earlier when i was asked about that, i'm not going to deal with that kind of petty stuff. this is a town that seems to relish gossip, rumor, innuendo. >> why didn't you deny calling the president a moron? >> that's a really old question. >> you understand that by not answering the question, some people thought you were confirming the story. >> i think i've answered the question. >> of course, he's never answered the question. >> actually, i think he did, john. i think he did answer. >> forgive me, yes. >> and i do think that this was certainly a nail in the coffin for rex tillerson. you're always going to have disagreements between cabinet officials and cabinet officials and the president. i saw that working for secretary