this women or them in some compromising photograph, it is a big difference. >> we heard him say salacious things. we have seen pictures, november of him naked, but we've seen pictures of him with stormy daniels, we've seen pictures of him with the playboy bunny. i mean, i really -- it's like, you know, again, where is the news in this? >> the difference between franken and this case is this is a consensual relationship. so that is a core difference here. >> and the other one was not a sexual relationship. >> right. the issue here, i think anna's right, there's no price to pay. people have already priced into his image, his candidacy at the time, who he is. his history with women, that's priced in. where he was able to beat the politicians in 2016 was by saying, i'm not one of them because i'm always going to tell you the truth, they're liars, i'm authentic, no matter what it is, i'll tell you the truth. on this one, they're bleeding a little credibility. because they're trying to