is growing. >> and you said shale is bigger than steel, right? and so the tariffs won't really make a difference. >> at this moment. but, you know, there is -- there is a lot of nostalgic association with steel. so people my age, or people my children's age, adult children, they never worked in a steel mill. and i never worked in a steel mill. but there is still the cultural association. so it is something that people wrap their arms around. >> but explain the significance. >> despite there not being that many jobs there. >> talk to me about the shale industry being bigger there. >> well shale is the growth industry around there. and not exactly in that district. but right beside that district is a new cracker plant that's being built not like salton