the president did not like that but gary cohn was committed to staying through tax reform which was quite important to him. and once tax reform got done, there were people who thought maybe gary would leave now. i think he stayed, in fact, it would be an economic crisis if the president with to try to impose tariffs. as he free trader and i think this probably reflects, and i'll get on the phone after this, this probably reflects the fact he feels he's fighting a losing battlest doesn't want any part of this and i think quite honestly, despite what the president said today, this will make it more and more difficult to find good people from outside to want to take gary skoenl's place. he was also mentioned, for example, as someone who might replace general kelly as chief of staff. >> clearly that's not happening.