another troubling development. >> jen, i mean, the idea that america was getting jared kushner and ivanka trump along with president trump seems to be, at least in part, a package deal of ethics questions and security clearance hurdles. >> that's true. you never want to hire someone you can't fire, which is why there's nepotism laws, in part. but the other fact that hasn't been out there that much is that when you fill out your security clearance forms, typically, your spouse's contacts and financial ties are taken into account. we don't know what her security clearance is, exactly what the status is, but there's no doubt that she would be, her security clearance would probably be impacted with everything happening with jared, as well. and if you look at this circumstance, it's actually pretty surprising, reading this story, that she hasn't been pulled into some of the repo reporting. she's been pretty low key as it relates to the mueller investigation. doesn't mean she's done anything wrong, but she's been around for a lot of the key moments. and as a daughter, that would be