lifers. these are not professional politicians. they're conducting business the way regular people do. jared kushner is way too sophisticated an individual. listen, this is a smart guy. he had a great reputation businesswise here. everybody has problems when they put money around the way he does. but he knows what this would look like. he knows what the risks are with this. that is an important part. >> let's play that out for a second. >> he's not a dummy. >> no. well, if he had known better, he wouldn't have done it. is it a -- it's not a business acumen to pay $1.8 billion on one single building? let's just put that through the reality. >> triple 6 is a coveted property. >> not that coveted. not $1.8 billion. >> you are not e.f. hutton. how do you know whether it's