conversation was very different. >> let me actually bring that up because it's as if all the political stars and moon align in one 12 hour period here. this piece by monica lewinsky in "vanity fair" is fascinating. it's smart. it's also very sensitive and revealing about what monica lewinsky has faced over the last 20 years. i recommend everyone read it. i want to focus on one thing that's getting a lot of attention right now. she talks about this idea of consent. i'll go back and read it because i missed the first part. i now see how problematic it was that the two of us even got to a place where there was a question of consent. instead the road that led us there was littered with inappropriate abuse of authority, station and privilege. of course through the lens of the me too movement i think now you can look at this and say, obviously, how could there be consent between president of the united states and an intern. >> in the article it has taken her this long at 44 years old to finally understand that she