you decided to work with another preside president, president obama on the my brother's keepers. first of all, you are friends with president obama. beautiful brothers in the world and you are buddies. that makes it by itself higher. what do you do? do you play one on one basketball? >> i've always seen him at the white house a couple of times, we've played golf a couple of times and made a swing through the bay area so we gt to sit down and talk about what he's doing with the foundation, post presidency life and whatnot. so getting a glimpse what that means for him. but that is still surreal thinking about that. it was pretty cool. >> what is that connection? >> it's empowering. he has an inside look at all the deep rooted problems in our