difficult position. >> is there any real sense in washington, because jared kushner is far from the only on person who has limited security clearance here, how effective these people can be at their jobs without all of that information? >> i think kushner is a special case because he is so close to the president personally. he is the son-in-law and president trump has relied on kushner since the early days of the campaign. so he is not just someone who can be discarded gau he doesn. is for other aides without that personal relationship, it would seem to make sense that their jobs could be in jeopardy because you want someone in those positions that can access classified information. >> all right. always good to see you. thank you. and in the context of guns and gun safety and gun control, this is a moment in this country. we don't know if there will be any fruit from this moment, but there is a critical conversation