happened. let's look at it from the other side. what would it take for the russians to get the message u.s. is serious here? >> well, i think we would have to act in extraordinary way, john. so what you had was five intelligence chiefs here so i think if you were able to talk to them in classified environment could list the things they are doing individually within their own lane to blunt the russian effort. but what we need here is a synchronized whole of government many and dare i say, john, whole of society response to what the russians did to effect american thinking in electoral processes in 2016. that has extraordinary structure none of what we get in the system without the president. >> let me ask you about the shooting last week. we'll hear from the town hall tonight. she said this is a homeland security issue.