personally i'm pro rancor, pro vitriol, i am pro someone doing something about this rather than being polite, when you hear the president of the united states say the answer is to give every teacher in america a gun. that is insane. that is an insane idea. as mark bardon, one of the fathers who lost a child -- who lost a child in sandy hook, whose wife is a teacher. i mean seriously? did anybody go to school here? does anybody remember their teachers? do you think we should give all of them guns? do you think -- do you think they want guns? just what kind of country do we live in when we're talking about giving every teacher in america a gun. and that's a solution to this problem? >> but the fact that you had two people stand up as part of this dialogue and say, mr. president, not the way jeff just said it, but in a respectful, very clear