president obama could have done more in those waning months. fair questions. when you look at the whole sum of what he did, everything that trump is doing now, and it ain't much, builds on what president obama started. in 2014, it was president obama w who, who at wales pushed for 2% defense spending for nato. 2014 at the crimea annexation and invasion, it was president obama who put in place a series of military moves that we're still doing today. more troops on the continent, more robust training to try to pushback on president putin. you mentioned things he did in the lead-up to the election when we found out they were election meddling, he slapped more sanctions on russia, in addition to the sanctions he slapped on after ukraine. by the way, it was the white house push for sanctions, not today, which is congress pushing for them and the white house not implementing them. yes, he was very robust and there's very little that trump has done that hasn't been just building on what president obama started. >> admiral kirby, david gergen, thank you.