when the deputy attorney general of the united states, rod rosenstein, announced this indictment, he said that there was no allegation that any american was a knowing participant in this illegal activity. nor did he say that the meddling altered the outcome of the election. but the indictment does go on to say that the meddling effort may have been aided by what it calls unwitting individuals associated with the republican nominee of course donald trump at the time. >> all right. matthew chance for us in moscow, thank you. let's talk more now from london, joining us, a teacher of international relations at the university of london. so we just heardmatthew, leslie. the russians deny and deny. however in the indictment, it claims russia was involved at the highest levels of government and it includes vladimir putin. what do you make of it?