people from having conversations about it. don't overtalk me. listen to the president. the president talks about all the time the media. he hates the media. he's upset about the media. he has a conversation about the media. the sheriff today says, please, media, don't put the cameras in anyone's face. did anyone say, oh my gosh, stop doing it! no, we're free to talk about it -- >> if they propose a law, a lot of people riley say, sorry, first amendment. if you want to change the second amendment -- >> this is america, if someone wants to try to propose a law, let them do it. it doesn't mean it's going to happen -- >> do you want to change the first amendment? >> i never said i wanted to change the second amendment. that is your extreme argument. >> you always go there. >> because you don't want to take the small steps to try to figure out how to stop what happened. >> that's not what i'm saying. >> that's exactly what you're saying. >> i'll say it again and stop -- >> what we said -- let me say it again. what we said was, we gave the facts on how much money gun lobbyists are offering these people who are in congress who are lawmakers and who refuse to