king county or genesee county or eric county. we don't know the guy. is that a real imname or assumed identity. we have to be careful we don't fall into hindsight bias where we know all this -- which is a well-known psychological phenomena of beginning to think once we know the outcome of an event that it's more predictable than it was before it happened. there is a lot of that going on as well. >> yeah, i understand what you're saying. but there is certainly a lot of evidence there. and we'll put it up before i let you guys go. this is one video showing the shooter engaged in target practice oud his barkyard. >> hue knew that. >> i'm just showing it to you. so i'm saying i agree with you. i'm sure that is happening. but there was. >> yes. >> someone had to shoot this and had to see it must have been one of his neighbors. thank you greg, oliver, wes i appreciate your time. >> 17 students and teachers died