so they understand the staggering numbers, $984 billion added to the deficit just next year, close to a trillion, if this budget is what ends up happening. that's an 89% increase. that's higher than what the president projected meaning it's over what he ever projected would be happening. how can you agree to this? >> first of all, we've had eight years under the prior administration where we added over $10 trillion. >> you didn't like that -- i'm interrupting because republicans rung their hands, and i interviewed so many of them during that time where you said you can't run up the credit card, you wouldn't do it in your own house and we can't do it in washington. >> alisyn, you're exactly right. those are my words, and i stick by them. first of all, there are things you can do to get at this debt crisis over the next 20 years. you're not going to solve this in ten years. we have to first grow the economy. the president moved on that. you have to cut out redundant agencies and wasteful spending.