and in fact, he hasn't sort of demonstrated a core when it comes to fiscal issues on anything. so people are left to wonder where is he going to be. that's one of the issues in daca as well, that people that aren't exactly sure which side he's going to come down on in the end. i think the fiscal issues are the same. >> fiscal issues are the same. here's a remarkable thing. we'll talk about the substance of the deal. this is the senate side. you first reported this over the weekend. a big two-year deeal, which a lt of people thought was impossible. they're trying to put everything into this one basket, get it through the senate, and have the house sign on to it. yesterday in the middle of all this, it's very sensitive, the president of the united states, who you would think would not want a government shutdown says, yeah, i do. >> if we don't change it, let's have a shutdown. we'll do a shutdown. it's worth it for our country. i'd love to see a shutdown if we don't get this stuff taken care of. >> is he oblivious to the fact that they had a deal in the senate? we're going to do this and then move on to immigration.