the investigation. the whole purpose of the investigation is to figure out what the heck -- hold on one second. >> that's not fair. >> what is not fair is to treat the president who is above the law and treat him unlike a private citizen. that is what is at issue. show me a history of private sit citizens able to tell the private prosecutor go to held. >> i'll show you the history of presidents. this president is too busy. >> we've already litigated it. >> yes, we have. >> defeating isis and growing our economy to answer to every petty grievance. >> that's illusion. >> testify in both the civilian criminal case. the president is there for presidents to testify. and there sa precedent for presiden presidents, prior presidents to be interviewed. so precedent for both. sounds like based on the reporting like the special counsel's office and the lawyers for the president are negotiating this arrangement in a way that is respectful of the