>> a mother's child is gone. a community member is gone. >> there were a number of people, including the president of the university, who said don't go downtown. stay away from downtown. and it was the concept of if a tree falls in the woods and no one is there, does it make any noise. >> somebody might mistake you as saying it was heather's fault for coming down here. you don't feel that way, do you? >> no, no. i don't feel it was her fault. but my point is that nobody who stayed away from downtown charlottesville was killed by neo-nazis. >> people of good sound mind did not believe the way to handle the situation was to pretend that they weren't there and nothing was going to happen. >> you are a young white male who is a conservative, and you are seeing in your own peer group people being pulled to some of these very atrocious ideas. what are we missing?