that may have been may or june, but there was a period of time, and it was over several weeks where it happened where the president was berating sessions over the recusal from the russia probe and sessions at one point offered his resignation, you know, the president wouldn't accept it, but then sessions still handed in a letter, president said i wouldn't accept the resignation, but it took a while before he gave the letter back, and this played out over a long period of time. longer than this issue with mueller did. >> if you can stay with us, i want to bring back carl bernstein. it's stunning. >> it's a huge story, and i'm going to assume that maggie is as good a reporter as she always is. and if the fact is that the white house counsel threatened to resign over this, but what it shows once again is that the president at all costs does not want this investigation to go